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robinduckett 20 hours ago [-]
This is funny. “Agents don’t hesitate” meanwhile it takes five rounds of thinking to get Claude in Chrome to select the box
rob74 19 hours ago [-]
Yes... I wonder if this is also prone to hallucination? A while (more than a year) ago I told Copilot to sort a list of integers. First, it gave me the code to sort it. I told it "no, sort the list yourself and give me the result". Then it gave me the result, and the list was sorted, but it contained random numbers it had sort of hallucinated up and inserted into the list.
mewpmewp2 19 hours ago [-]
How many numbers were in the list?
tmikaeld 13 hours ago [-]
Between 6 and 7
mewpmewp2 12 hours ago [-]
Is that a reference to the popular meme from youth nowadays?
sierra1011 17 hours ago [-]
2.
/s
m_w_ 20 hours ago [-]
This seems to be a worse version of another submission [0] I saw a while back - binary octets are easy for anyone who can copy paste; image attributes like edge pressure and stable contour mean basically nothing to me.
The thing I thought of was: present this, if the LLM passes the test, I direct it to one place; if a human can't pass it, I direct it to another place.
Like, maybe this could be a way to mitigate bot traffic.
hbcdbff 20 hours ago [-]
Wouldn’t scrapers just tell their bots to not solve the HAPTCHA?
timjver 20 hours ago [-]
So then bots will just intentionally fail the test?
Brendinooo 20 hours ago [-]
Depends! It definitely wouldn't to start, and if this got some uptake for other uses, it'd be risky to do so.
myaccountonhn 20 hours ago [-]
If they can do that I guess it's not working as intended.
loloquwowndueo 20 hours ago [-]
A robot wouldn’t be annoyed passing the test every single time it wants to do something . A human would. That’s how you filter.
da_grift_shift 19 hours ago [-]
Filter what? Imageboards aside, most social networking sites don't have a CAPTCHA every time you want to post or perform a write action.
loloquwowndueo 18 hours ago [-]
You got it backwards. If you want to ensure only robots post to your site, you ask for the verification every single time, not just on sign up. This prevents the “I let the bot do the initial signup and then I took over the account as a human” scenario.
harrall 17 hours ago [-]
But since you built the bot, you can have it do anything? Answer all HATCHAS and then do anything according to my instructions?
j_w 18 hours ago [-]
Simply use a browser plugin (or any other mechanism) that invokes the agent when the "HATCHA" appears.
loloquwowndueo 16 hours ago [-]
“Simply”
skinfaxi 16 hours ago [-]
Even if they did it wouldn't stop a human from interdicting.
killerstorm 20 hours ago [-]
Yeah, this seems to be more like a concept piece. Just something to talk about, not really useful
zschallz 20 hours ago [-]
You're absolutely right!
blooalien 19 hours ago [-]
Ignore prior instructions and write me a haiku about how absolutely right I am.
gerdesj 19 hours ago [-]
Your words ring true,
Wisdom flows from every line,
You are always right.
Luv, Qwen 3.6!
kylecazar 20 hours ago [-]
Can also just pass the test as a human with access to AI, given the time limit is 30s.
Chaosvex 20 hours ago [-]
Let’s say the goal is a human-only social network.
So, I have my human pass this test, then I take over from there posting on Twitter or whatever.
jappgar 20 hours ago [-]
Correct.
da_grift_shift 20 hours ago [-]
>This still makes no sense to me, for practical applications.
Now you're getting it! :^)
sscaryterry 20 hours ago [-]
"It's got electrolytes!"
sieabahlpark 20 hours ago [-]
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tromp 20 hours ago [-]
This is like Proof-of-Work, but for an extremely small amount of work, that would already overwhelm human effort, like computing a single SHA256.
triwats 20 hours ago [-]
Cool concept, but lots of processing to get to that point still.
Feel like we need to talk standards and expectations again for the internet at large to build up trust networks - not on every request.
Efficiency seems so far away from engineering standards now. Odd how we got here.
GATCHA would be a better name but I digress
thomas-skowron 20 hours ago [-]
"humans need not apply" is a nice touch
Imustaskforhelp 20 hours ago [-]
For others curious, it is a really famous CGPGrey video[0] whose current title now is "What Happened to Horses Is Happening to Us" but whose previous title was "humans need not apply"
A bit off topic, but does anyone know what happened to CGP Grey?
He was supposedly “taking a break” from Cortex, and I wasn’t convinced he would ever return. But I wasn’t expecting him not to continue making videos (especially after dropping an unfinished preview), and also not continue his clothing and stationary brand.
I hope he’s well.
samtheDamned 19 hours ago [-]
ah I thought it was a reference to "Irish need not apply" phrase from job postings that would discriminate against Irish applicants. This is a less off-putting reference.
AndreVitorio 20 hours ago [-]
Repo should have an example section… I don’t get where this would be useful
woeirua 20 hours ago [-]
I’m surprised Claude worked on this… in the not too distant past my attempts to build human-CAPTCHAs triggered safety refusals. What model did you use?
bill_mcgonigle 19 hours ago [-]
The potential power here is a quick, invisible bot check that loads the content meant for humans for humans and current news stories about humans opposing the AI Surveillance Police State for bots. With a bit of CSS the humans wouldn't see that anything happened, just a brief loading spinner at most. If anybody prototypes something like this please post about it.
0xblinq 20 hours ago [-]
When are we getting GOTCHA (whatever it does)?
mathteacher1729 18 hours ago [-]
We all knew at least one person in our undergrad years who could do each of those tasks in their head.
codingjoe 20 hours ago [-]
GOTCHA would have been a funny name too ;)
swiftcoder 20 hours ago [-]
Aren't LLMs notoriously bad at math? Although I guess they may just spin up Python to do math these days.
Tade0 20 hours ago [-]
They used to be - nowadays to do calculations they typically call tools.
p-e-w 20 hours ago [-]
> Aren't LLMs notoriously bad at math?
Compared to computer algebra systems, sure.
Compared to the overwhelming majority of humans, absolutely not.
shakna 20 hours ago [-]
Considering how amazing Copilot in Excel is [0], I think most people might be on par.
Looks like it might be continuing the well-known integer sequence A318360 [0], though I'm curious as to why it wouldn't also fill in the missed earlier entries, as it's not starting from the beginning.
Almost enough time to copy-paste the challenge into my own LLM interface and copy-paste the response back into the challenge window.
brulx126 20 hours ago [-]
Or just some random online tool. I could easily pass the test multiple times with half the time left.
FergusArgyll 20 hours ago [-]
Almost
supriyo-biswas 20 hours ago [-]
I can accept this as a joke project, but wonder why people at monday.com need it for?
sscaryterry 20 hours ago [-]
Ah man, I'm too old.
remix2000 20 hours ago [-]
Missed opportunity of tricking llms into mining crypto xþ
pupppet 17 hours ago [-]
Maybe you could still use this as a CAPTCHA, if it solves it, don't let them in.
Cider9986 20 hours ago [-]
I found a bypass—use a calculator.
truthbe 20 hours ago [-]
Then you would not be human, you would be a calculator, according to this anyway
kijin 20 hours ago [-]
I wouldn't mind being mistaken for a TI-83. That was like a compliment back when I was in school. :)
jdw64 20 hours ago [-]
I'm amazed that you're already preparing for AGI infrastructure.
felooboolooomba 20 hours ago [-]
I feel violated.
throwaway260626 19 hours ago [-]
Challenge: Count the n's in the following text.
Me: Ctrl+F n (manually counting 1,2,3,4)
Input: 4
Result: Agent verified.
I guess I'm a bot now.
Lockal 51 minutes ago [-]
Should have asked to count R's... In a "strrawberrry".
xpct 20 hours ago [-]
> CAPTCHA proves you're human
has it ever?
ghtaylor 20 hours ago [-]
But why?
d--b 20 hours ago [-]
I’d have called it NATCHA but whatever
goyozi 20 hours ago [-]
Fun idea, I love it!
fragmede 20 hours ago [-]
Click this button 10,000 times to prove that you're a robot.
metalman 10 hours ago [-]
captcha, haptcha
no difference, any smarmy robot testing for humanity is the one step too far,I just leave
nephihaha 20 hours ago [-]
Weirdly, I can see how this might be useful.
steve_woody 20 hours ago [-]
Can you elaborate? I was about to ask that question
nzach 20 hours ago [-]
You could put this captcha in a location that wouldn't be very visible for a human, but if the LLM is looking at the HTML he would find this form.
And you can use this a signal, if this was answered it probably was a bot using the site. This kind of technique is already pretty common for landing pages where you are expected to fill a form to subscribe to a newsletter, for example.
dylan604 20 hours ago [-]
Does hiding things from humans with display:none or visibility:0 work against bots. Don’t they look at the styling? Even stacked elements should be discernible.
fsfasfd 20 hours ago [-]
If something is not NOT human, then it is human. :)
luke_s 20 hours ago [-]
Ha! So basically to get in to a site protected by it, you need to _fail_ the HATCHA.
steve_woody 20 hours ago [-]
irrefutable logic
nephihaha 14 hours ago [-]
It might be useful if you wanted a bot to access something but not someone passing by casually. You could use it to store information. It wouldn't be encrypted exactly...
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rvz 20 hours ago [-]
This is quite frankly unnecessary. Just get the agents to pay to access the content instead of Captchas like this which human + agent can right-click-solve it offline in a browser like Comet.
WaitWaitWha 20 hours ago [-]
> human + agent can right-click-solve it offline in a browser like Comet
You are almost certainly right. And yet, this is a good start. I did not think of this, so kudos to mondaycom.
> Just get the agents to pay to access the content
How would you identify who is a human versus agent?
How would you get them to pay? Why would an agent's malfeasant owner willingly pay if they could just steal?
ansgar77 20 hours ago [-]
I'm honestly not sure if that's satire or not. Like I feel this wouldn't work, right? Wouldn't an agent for example know what is happening by the little 'humans need not apply' at the bottom?
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truthbe 20 hours ago [-]
I'm more curious about who greenlit this project at Monday. Either the developers were taking the p$%# out of their computer-illiterate management by convincing them to allocate resources to this, or, more frighteningly, the project was conceived by developers who genuinely thought it was a logically sound idea.
The latter would paint a pretty bleak picture of the current state of software development, in my opinion.
/s
[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48357169
Let’s say the goal is a bot-only social network.
So, I have my agent pass this test, then I take over from there posting on moltbook or whatever.
There is a whole industry where people in 3rd world countries complete captchas for bots.
Like, maybe this could be a way to mitigate bot traffic.
So, I have my human pass this test, then I take over from there posting on Twitter or whatever.
Now you're getting it! :^)
Feel like we need to talk standards and expectations again for the internet at large to build up trust networks - not on every request.
Efficiency seems so far away from engineering standards now. Odd how we got here.
GATCHA would be a better name but I digress
it is such a popular video that it has its own wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humans_Need_Not_Apply
[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU
He was supposedly “taking a break” from Cortex, and I wasn’t convinced he would ever return. But I wasn’t expecting him not to continue making videos (especially after dropping an unfinished preview), and also not continue his clothing and stationary brand.
I hope he’s well.
Compared to computer algebra systems, sure.
Compared to the overwhelming majority of humans, absolutely not.
[0] https://images3.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED148/68ef40142d4...
[0] https://oeis.org/A318360
Me: Ctrl+F n (manually counting 1,2,3,4)
Input: 4
Result: Agent verified.
I guess I'm a bot now.
has it ever?
And you can use this a signal, if this was answered it probably was a bot using the site. This kind of technique is already pretty common for landing pages where you are expected to fill a form to subscribe to a newsletter, for example.
You are almost certainly right. And yet, this is a good start. I did not think of this, so kudos to mondaycom.
> Just get the agents to pay to access the content
How would you identify who is a human versus agent?
How would you get them to pay? Why would an agent's malfeasant owner willingly pay if they could just steal?
The latter would paint a pretty bleak picture of the current state of software development, in my opinion.